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 EoC DG Data Collection. 
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Post Re: EoC DG Data Collection.
Tui wrote:
2h and spear now have the same attack speed, so 2h should be better, considering the frequency of monsters, I THINK it goes Slash > Crush > Stab.

So Prim 2h > Prim maul > Prim spear (if ur somehow not 99 str but 99 atk) > Prom 2h.


Monsters heal when their hp bar disappears & they are no longer aggro'd towards anything. Bosses do not, even if they are no longer aggro'd to anyone. (They usually stay aggro'd towards players when you aren't in boss.)


Ring tiers:
berserker: 2% acc per tier i.e. t10 zerker is +20% accuracy with a 2h weapon
tact: 2%/tier ditto 1h
tank: 6%-15% dam reduc
blazer: 5%/tier of applying combust effect
blitzer: 10%/tier of increased weapon speed
desp: +11%-20% ranged levels when calculating damage
sniper: +2%/lv chance of hitting with a bow

since your damage is calculated as level + damage bonus of equipment (arrows, gpb included), desp was potentially bad, but it does more than +20

very small amount of testing, but
215/193 (or 213 with +20)
1297/1142 (or 1162 with +20)
hex:
1321/1290 (brute)
1641/1568 (night spider) I assume both of these have 0 hex bonus

melee:
1288/1159 - ovl (ovls are now 116/99)

1409/1142 - example crit - you can crit without a bn (it says 0%)

These are not max hits. They are simply a hit above the expected max. Likewise, str/ranged levels normally should affect max hits by much more than level = damage, its just invisible, same with turm etc (it says in the desc). Also, max hit splats no longer exist, crit hit splats do, though.


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Mon Nov 26, 2012 2:57 pm
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Post Re: EoC DG Data Collection.
Desp does affect abilities.

Dg monsters no longer heal after hp bar disappears.

1774/1568, desp
1776/1568, desp

2066/1568, desp+anguish

arrows do not restock from logging, I'm not too sure whether they did before, though, I know csb definitely did at one point.


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https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc ... DRHUXR4Unc

collected some mage data - some people have been saying +15% acc/damage when it is only acc, please don't.
no data on acc of abilities, they can of course miss, and I assume the acc is unaffected by abilities
i am aware most people will be maging in a plate or no armour, easier to collect like this and simply wanted to prove damage was unaffected.

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fsurge average (ignoring splashes) 919.57037037037 "
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attacks 389
splashes 119
hits 270
acc 0.694087403598972

air surge avg 905.673306772908 "
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atks 445
splashes 194
hits 251
acc 0.564044943820225
fsurge inc acc 633.439322401909
asurge inc acc 514.759733666251

Note: assumed equal damage - avg(B5,B11)

198 zomb from necro, melee, weak to fsurge
equipment: sag body / p legs
http://i.imgur.com/W0O0q.png 762
Blitzer ring (1 tick faster mage attacks)
99 mage, no bn
1 crit in the 835 attacks, did not include in data


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For melee weapons, how do the style (stab, slash, etc.) effect you? Are enemies weak to different types of melee attacks?

If you look on the target side panel, it shows you what a creature is weak to. A creature could be weak to crush, or water magic, or arrows etc. If you use the exact type the creature is weak to, you will have an increased chance to hit, in the region of an additional 15%.

http://services.runescape.com/m=forum/f ... 0,63935928


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All levels 99, pic taken with a surge set to auto-cast

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Post Re: EoC DG Data Collection.
Doomcore staff no longer has any more damage boost. This was probably already known, but I'm posting it just to dispel misconceptions (like my own).

Magic level: 86

Casted fire wave at least 100 times each
(806 damage)

Max hits
No staff: 850
Doomcore staff: 1905
Entgallow staff: 1899


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Post Re: EoC DG Data Collection.
what are the advantages of useless burst damage that slows you down with a useless ability bar? burst damage should be done only while pathing through gds, probably. It should be just regatt+abil, I found anticipation enough to stall adren most of the time but yes we can use defensive abilities as necessary to stall. I really doubt thresholds/ultimates earlier are worth doing that, but I can't really conclusively prove such a thing. That said, I am keeping it in mind, but try it in some solo meds and see if you feel it's worth it.


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Post Re: EoC DG Data Collection.
Tui wrote:
what are the advantages of useless burst damage that slows you down with a useless ability bar? burst damage should be done only while pathing through gds, probably. It should be just regatt+abil, I found anticipation enough to stall adren most of the time but yes we can use defensive abilities as necessary to stall. I really doubt thresholds/ultimates earlier are worth doing that, but I can't really conclusively prove such a thing. That said, I am keeping it in mind, but try it in some solo meds and see if you feel it's worth it.

thresholds are definitely worth it.

slaughter can easily hit 4* over 1k dmg
assault can easily hit 4*over 1.5k dmg
hurricane can easily 2 hit everything surrounding you.

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Post Re: EoC DG Data Collection.
that is not a research post, my post was not either. veto tui/orki (sorry for posting in the first place)


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Post Re: EoC DG Data Collection.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc ... yaWc#gid=0

tl;dr
266 hex hits
1 crit hit
essentially confirms that hex bonus doesn't exist.

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Don't think this has been posted yet. (Thanks Teren!)
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Celestial Catalytic Wand

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FYI - It does gives runes just like the staff.

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Teren wrote:
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How does Dual PBA stack up against Prom 2h/P2h/Pmaul/Pspear?


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Post Re: EoC DG Data Collection.
Took some pictures of SSB and Hex pre and post today's buff:

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Also, here is a video of me showing excellent and proficient dungeoneering techniques while I occasionally killing some things with my hex in a dungeon. It probably isn't worth anyone's time to watch but I felt like recording something and figured I'd upload it.

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Didn't watch :)

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