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 Effigy Un-nerf? 
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Post Effigy Un-nerf?
http://services.runescape.com/m=adventu ... HELL%A0YES

So this guy has had ~10 effigys from abyssal walkers in the last week, what is he doing right? or is he just EXTREMELY lucky or is there just a general unnerf of effigys?

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Sun May 26, 2013 2:18 pm
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Post Re: Effigy Un-nerf?
when barraging dags for charms i got 1-2 a day. i always wondered if some monsters werent affected by the nerf, maybe this is the case? do you know the method he is using to kill them?

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iBe wrote:
when barraging dags for charms i got 1-2 a day. i always wondered if some monsters werent affected by the nerf, maybe this is the case? do you know the method he is using to kill them?


No, I was thinking he's prob barraging them in the wilderness abyss?

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Post Re: Effigy Un-nerf?
I think its generally accepted that there has been a slight effigy un-nerf. Though I don't think its been confirmed yet.


Sun May 26, 2013 5:35 pm
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Post Re: Effigy Un-nerf?
Yeah, he's been abusing the abyss.

There isn't much we can do as far as research goes. We'd have to know the post-nerf effigy formula, and we never figured that out. We can only compare effigy rates to those before the nerf, but that would only be useful if it was close or exact.

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Post Re: Effigy Un-nerf?
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Yeah, he's been abusing the abyss.

There isn't much we can do as far as research goes. We'd have to know the post-nerf effigy formula, and we never figured that out. We can only compare effigy rates to those before the nerf, but that would only be useful if it was close or exact.


Do you know which method he is using?

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I think I know. Look at "Skiller's" adventurers log

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Post Re: Effigy Un-nerf?
I have been chinning abyss creatures and gotten one effigy in about 1m exp

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Post Re: Effigy Un-nerf?
Miles wrote:
Hedgehog wrote:
Yeah, he's been abusing the abyss.

There isn't much we can do as far as research goes. We'd have to know the post-nerf effigy formula, and we never figured that out. We can only compare effigy rates to those before the nerf, but that would only be useful if it was close or exact.


Do you know which method he is using?

You just barrage the creatures in the abyss, it's fairly simple.

From what I hear (there are like 20 people using this method in EE), it's an effigy every 2 hours or so, which is reminiscent of pre-nerf times.

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Post Re: Effigy Un-nerf?
sigh was it really hard to hide a-log...

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Post Re: Effigy Un-nerf?
This guy?
THIS GUY.


Yeah. I'm at like 32 Effigies now since the apparent "unnerf", mostly at the abyss, but a handful through standard Slayer. Aslo I'm glad you are so jimmied S0viet

Do not feel like wading through the wasteland of TiFs 200m Thread atm, but Gemeos seems to think they secretly did this at the time they updated God Wars

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Post Re: Effigy Un-nerf?
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In order to give a better explanation about what happened to effigies:
1) Jagex nerfed effigies when SOF came
2) They were super mega rare as hell (1 per 2m+ slay)
3) EoC came
4) All cmb lvls changed: most monsters cmb lvl turn on much lower number
5) Effigies even more rare because of this (1 per 5m+ slay)
6) Richard told Mod Chris L this is not right, gwd rate is 1/75 yet KK is 1/2k (but kk is higher cmb)
7) He agreed and already knew about this problem
8) With gwd update they maybe changed forumla OR fixed the problem with eoc cmb lvls making appear much rare
9) Because the speed we kill things now in eoc (look at barraging abyss) it appears they are fixed

Based in 3050k Slayer XP by Richard, effigy rate is around 508k Slayer XP. He only got 6 so far so I wouldn't expect it to be much accurate, obviously.


http://forum.tip.it/topic/244419-200m-i ... try5414468

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Post Re: Effigy Un-nerf?
Well imo the effigy rate is way to high http://services.runescape.com/m=adventu ... demos+mage
2.5m range xp, 8 effigies seems a bit to much.
But since this monday, 1m range xp 0 effigies.
Can anyone else confirm if I was very lucky the first time, and if the 2nd if bad luck or nerf?


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Post Re: Effigy Un-nerf?
Probability.

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Post Re: Effigy Un-nerf?
Just with a rough calculation in my head getting 0 effigies in 1m xp would have a 1 in 27 chance of occuring. If 8 effigies in 2.5m xp was considered lucky then the chance of your dry streak occuring would be even higher than 1/27.

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