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 DGS Rules and Guidelines. 
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-Clan Chat:
DGS.

Administrators:
Teren, Leech, Caleb, BardockObama, Butterfree, El Bomb, Khan

Reviewers:
Amin, Nico, Liam


-Mission Statement:
The primary goal of DGS is to assist both experienced and inexperienced players in improving their skill and ability to dungeoneer effectively and efficiently. As such, DGS covers a wide range of skill levels. Our newest members usually come from the public dungeoneering worlds and other clans, which means that in most cases their dungeoneering experience has been limited to soloing a majority of their exp, or dealing with other inexperienced DGers alike, resulting in poorly executed and unnecessarily long floors. In contrast, our highest ranks are able to complete floors in the best possible times, and in the most proficient manner. This allows our clan members to get the best possible exp/h in floors, or just have fun honing their skills in regular speed floors.

Because of the nature of our goals as a clan, DGS members should expect heavy feedback and constructive criticism. This feedback is meant to help you improve - it is not meant to make you feel bad about making mistakes. Not even the highest ranks are exempt from criticism. In DGS, improvement must always come before ego, and everyone will be expected to begin teaching others before applying for higher ranks.

DGS utilizes two primary methods of teaching that are equally important:

Knowledge: discussion, guides, and research.
  • XP-waste is home to multiple dungeoneering guides – most of which are continuously subject to change - that contain extremely valuable information. These guides should be read and re-read until the information can be recalled and utilized without hesitation during floors.
  • Most DGSers spend time after floors discussing what went wrong and what could've been done better by the team. These discussions also take place on the forums in various threads, such as the Map Discussion thread or in dedicated Skype chats. These discussions help players avoid mistakes and bad decisions that they've made or they've seen other players make.
  • DGS is well-known for our extensive research of dungeoneering. Figuring out the mechanics of puzzles and how to exploit them, proving the superiority of certain weapons or items over others, and even predicting how a map will pan out with a high degree of accuracy are just a few subjects that we've covered. The purpose of this research is to provide us with knowledge that decreases the influence of luck during floors.

Putting that knowledge to use: efficiency-based floors (Clan Chat floors) and speed floors.
  • An efficiency-based floor is a floor that focuses on clan members helping each other learn and improve their dungeoneering ability through constructive feedback. All DGS floors should be considered efficiency-based unless stated otherwise. These floors test nearly all aspects of a player's knowledge, with a focus on pathing and efficient macro-management. Many higher ranks approach floors as if they were speed floors, which often lowers times drastically. These floors are NOT to be mistaken for speed floors, these are mainly for improvement and as such shouldn't be misused by lower ranks as a means of record-grinding
  • In speed floors, feedback and criticism are often disregarded in favor of attaining the fastest possible times. Speed floors are essential to improving APM (Actions Per Minute), communication, decision making, and especially team coordination, but this does not mean they are for participating ranks to use as what efficiency-based floors are for

As you can see, DGS requires a degree of commitment to the clan that many people are not able or willing to put in. We do not cater to people looking to use the clan to only gain DG exp or material rewards. We do not cater to people looking to stop at 99 for their max capes. We do not cater to people looking to stop at 120 for their completionist capes. We expect that every single member will go far beyond 120 and continue ascending the ranks, from recruit to floorgazer. Having an interest to always improve and helping others do the same is essential and all members must have this attitude to succeed in the clan.

If you are still interested in joining the clan after reading the above, then read on for our rules, bind guidelines, and descriptions of each rank. To get a taste of what to expect and what is expected of our ranks, here's a video of some DGS ranks doing a row of speed floors.



-How to join DGS:
  • It's recommended that you can do at least f30, as clan chat floors are rarely done in a repetitive manner in regard to floor themes. A variety of theme is recommended during clan chat floors for members to learn as much as they can.
  • You must have read the guidelines and exhibit what you understood during floors.
  • You must have submitted an application in the correct subforum.
  • Once your application is accepted you may join the clan as a recruit (1-stripe rank) or a guest.
  • Do not ask for floors, this will be interpreted negatively by ranks and be weighed against you when being considered for promotion. Join advertised floors or host your own. You will be expected to host your own eventually.


-Rules:
  • Ranks go out of their way to help you. If you do not follow their instructions or our guidelines, you will be banned from the clan chat and be given no second chances. Consider this a very strict policy.
  • We will not tolerate malicious flaming, trolling, spamming, scamming, luring, DDoSing, or cursing, including racial and homophobic slurs.
  • Players must have an accepted application to do floors with DGS. Inviting a friend into a DGS floor is NOT permitted unless the team is +1 and cannot get a fifth from the clan chat, and "non-DGS" floors cannot be hosted in the clan chat at all.
  • If you have a complaint about DGS or another player, contact an admin, reviewer, or moderator - do not post about it on the forums.
  • S/L floors are not permitted in DGS, unless the party in unable to fill via clan chat/skype/other and everyone agrees it is acceptable.
  • Players on the banlist are not permitted to do floors with DGS. If there's a banned player on the team, you will not be allowed to advertise for that floor(s) in the clan chat.
  • You are not allowed to kick players from teams (unless there is a serious issue, which should simultaneously be addressed to an administrator/mod) or (rage)quit floors.
  • Respect and follow all instructions of the keyer, failure to do so will result in removal from the team, and possibly clan chat if the matter is serious or constant behaviour. (example, if the keyer asks you to remove your title (the real, big cheese, the red, etc), do it).
  • Do not change your name to be similar to someone else's in the clan. For example, if your name is 0bat you are not allowed to change your name to Obataurian.
  • Leave administrative matters to admins and reviewers. This includes dealing with guests (unless there are none present in the clan chat), clan chat ranks, rules, applications, etc.


-Guides:
Everyone must read the following guides thoroughly and multiple times each.

Official DGS Guides:
-- Map Reading & Pathing.
-- Puzzles.
-- Bosses.
-- Acronyms.
-- Monster weaknesses.
-- Intro to Meta.
-- Abilities.


-Clan Chat Ranks:
ImageImageImage Administrator
Image Moderator / Floorgazer
Image Moderator / Keyer
Image Moderator / Wing / Avatar
Image Floorgazer
Image Keyer
Image Wing
Image Sergeant
Image Corporal
Image Recruit

-Administrators and Moderators:ImageImageImageImageImageImage
DGS administrators are "keys" in the clan chat; moderators have the citadel ranks, with the color of the rank denoting their skill rank in the clan (IE, a silver citadel rank is a moderator/keyer). They keep things running smoothly by keeping the clan chat free of spam, flaming, and trolling. Moderators are able to invite players into the clan. Administrators and moderators are often wingmen, keyers, or floorgazers. The exception is the bronze star mod rank (Admin), which is usually shared between both official DGS wingman ranks and temporary clan avatar holders.

-Recruits:Image
Recruits (one-stripes) in the clan chat have met the basic objective requirements and have posted an application. All recruits should attempt to upgrade to corporal as soon as possible. All recruits are expected to have long-term dungeoneering goals; players attempting to join DGS for selfish and personal materialistic needs will be denied. All recruits will be expected to do what it takes (granted they don’t break the DGS rules) to achieve their dungeoneering goals, and ultimately get floorgazer status. All potential recruits must submit an application before using the clan chat. Most importantly, all recruits must have a willingness to learn and take criticism.

Click here to apply for the recruit rank.

-Corporals:Image
Corporals (two-stripes) in the clan chat are official members of DGS who meet certain criteria and standards. Promotion to corp shows a basic competency at dungeoneering; higher ranks should be able to rely on corporals not making major mistakes or wasting lots of time. It is recommended that corporals take the time out of other activities to be as active in the clan chat as possible, as this is the most crucial rank which determines whether or not you will excel during your time in DGS. Corporals are expected to begin to show increasing interest in improving to their maximum potential and helping others improve as well.

Click here to read about corporal rank requirements in more detail.

As well as this for information on reviewing before sergeant.

-Sergeants:Image
Sergeants are DGS members who are show great improvement from corporal/recruit standards and greater understanding of the dungeoneering metagame. Sergeants are hand-picked individuals, who through a vouching process are given the rank after getting a total of 7 vouches. Sergeants usually are wingman level in some areas, but lacking in others, or close to wing level overall. Sergeants additionally show that they are good members of the DGS community, eager to improve and the help others improve.

See the wing section for details on the skill requirements, or click here to see the thread announcing this rank

-Wingmen / Wingwomen:Image
The wing rank (bronze star) is the halfway mark between recruit and keyer. Wings are expected to display proficient, but not outstanding, knowledge and ability in all aspects of dungeoneering. The wing rank also denotes the beginning of responsibility in DGS, as wings are required to help tutor recruits. The wingman rank can be achieved by asking to be reviewed by DGS ranks. Any stripe rank is eligible to ask to be reviewed, but will only be granted a review if they are an active member of the clan.

-Keyers:Image
Keyers, on the other hand, must show outstanding knowledge and ability in every aspect of Dungeoneering. Keyers are expected to maintain excellent awareness of all macro aspects of Dungeoneering whilst still maintaining an advanced standard of micro-optimization. Keyers are expected to be consistent in their ability to execute floors at their respected standard. Keyers are directly involved in matters of clan progression and expansion such as rank promotions, metagame discussion, teaching, and research.

-Floorgazers:Image
Floorgazers are the best of the best. This rank is entirely subjective, as in order for a Keyer rank to be promoted to Floorgazer, all active Floorgazers must agree on the promotion. This means all Floorgazers have gone through the strain of many objective ranks, passing through the vouches of 3-stripes and both Wingman/Keyer reviews, and have proven themselves to stick out from other Keyer ranks to all other Floorgazers. This is a rank that is reserved for the near-perfect DGers, macro mistakes at this rank are not acceptable, and micromanagement is expected to be at the very best.


-Level, Bind, and Ring Requirements:
DGS members and applicants are required to have the following minimum skill levels (using prayers if 70+ prayer; curses if 95+ prayer):

Defense: 45
Magic: 64
Prayer: 70

And lastly, level 80 or above in two or more of the following options:

-Ranged
-Magic
-Attack + Strength



The medium Daemonheim tasks are a requirement to dg in the clan. Elite is also highly recommended. In total, the skill requirements for medium are:
Spoiler:
45 Divination
43 Fletching
40 Thieving
40 Hunter
40 Farming
36 Herblore
35 Dungeoneering
32 Magic
30 Attack
30 Ranged


DGS members and applicants are required to have the following binds (always use the highest tier armour/weapon available to you):

Bind 1: Highest tier shortbow available.
Bind 2: Defensive bind. There are two acceptable defensive binds; highest tier range body available and the shadow silk hood.
Bind 3: Secondary weapon. Generally staff is preferred however if you're melee stats are significantly higher than your magic the highest two-handed melee weapon available is best. Ask in the clan chat if you are unsure of which to bind.
Bind 4: Blood necklace > 2nd defensive bind.
Bind 5: 2nd defensive bind (Shield) or a 1-handed weapon for Barge.
Bind 6: Unlocked if you have a 1-handed weapon bound in one of the above 5 binds. This can be a shield or an off-hand weapon for bladed dive.
Ammo: Highest tier arrows available.
Potion: Strong artisan, gatherer, naturalist, or survival. The order for most commonly used potions is art>gath>nat>surv, but if you are high level in artisan skills and lower in others, one of the other potions may be better. Also, it’s useful to have a variety of potions across the whole team to cover more potion-requiring doors.

Obviously if you do not have 5 binds you omit the 5th. For players with imbalanced combat stats and/or lack of elite dg diaries done it is possible that melee or mage may be a better choice of primary weapon compared to range, if you are in this position explain your situation to an active admin or reviewer and they will help decide on the best bind setup for your stats.


Finally, DGS members and applicants are required to have their kinship rings setup as follows (those who choose magic as their secondary attack style upgrade the blitzer ring, while melee users upgrade the berserker ring):

For people ELITE DIARIES DONE
Your primary and quickswitch should be set to sniper and blitzer, and your secondary should be desperado to always have it since it’s the most important ring.

For people WITHOUT elite diaries done:
Your primary ring should be desperado. Your quickswitch should be blitzer, and your secondary should be sniper. The reasoning behind this is secondary rings don't receive their full affect until elite diaries are complete.

Use the following for your two DPS rings, and after getting both to tier 10 then work on your third ring.

Desperado ring:
66: Tier 6
70: Tier 7
79: Tier 8
89: Tier 9
102: Tier 10

Sniper ring:
66: Tier 6
73: Tier 7
83: Tier 8
93: Tier 9
106: Tier 10

Blitzer ring:
66: Tier 6
75: Tier 7
86: Tier 8
96: Tier 9
110: Tier 10


Thu Apr 14, 2011 10:04 pm
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Frozen for beginners, barely underground.
Furnished and Abandoned, farther beneath land.
Occult for those doomed to enjoy.
Warped for the true pro, all the way down.
In the land of Daemonheim, where the caverns lie.
One clan to rule them all, One clan to find them,
One clan to bring them all, and in the dungeons bind them.
In the land of Daemonheim, where the caverns lie.


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Go go Obt.


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LET'S SWEEP SOME DONGS

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I've seen two gazers in 20m xp, no hexes. :(


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As I said before, I plan 24/7ing this clan soon as I finish a few skills I am still working on.

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I'm interested to hear more. I've been looking for a decent team to Dungeoneer with in the coming weeks.

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120 in 2 weeks.


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Jimi stop botting please babe.

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Green9090 wrote:
LET'S SWEEP SOME DONGS


Quoted for emphasis


Fri Apr 15, 2011 10:17 am
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Blind Auror wrote:
Mike stop botting please babe.

Recently lost ANOTHER rapier because Jagex fucked graves up and nothing showed up
So once again; back at dg.
I'm gonna get 120 dg at this rate just by losing my chaotics.
2x rapier, 2x bow, 1x staff, 1x faseer kite, 2x ring of vigour
13 m dg xp lost so far
120 here i come.

Wat. What happened?


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Hey dgs, im trying to get 113dg in the next three weeks and I need all the help I can get, I will eventually come back from my vacation in september and finish up 120 then :(

hope to see you in some dungsssss


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Everto Malum wrote:
I've seen two gazers in 20m xp, no hexes. :(

And I've been insanely lucky enough to see 1 gazer in 7m dg'ing exp, and it dropped a hex. :mrgreen: Pity I won't be binding one until 100+ dg'ing, which won't happen for a while.

TIME TO SWEEP SOME MORE DONGS!


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so...how bout that copy pasta thing you were going to do?

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Right I've brought them across, Jimi just needs to update them and you guys can check I've not missed any formatting out.


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Hi. I like DGS :)

Good luck michael on 120! Almost there!

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Now that Jagex updated the desperado ring to work with hexes, is there any reason to upgrade any other classes besides desperado, blitzer, gatherer, and berserker?

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Blazer for Dreadnaught.

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I still think saying in guidelines Overloading is preffered cuz that extra dps for gd at beginning + random 500 heal is nice too


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